Archive for November, 2009

Apparently Onyxia has no enrage timer

I like to put together 10 man VOA/Ony runs at the beginning of the week. We were rolling with mostly alts for these easymode raids, although I was MTing on Halleigh (my main).

Ony came down much faster than I expected and landed just as some whelps and a big add came out. Everything got a little messy as I was backing her up and positioning her for phase 3. Notes for next time: tell the ranged to hold off at 45% if we’re about to get an add spawn, ensure adds are managed, and then land her. Anyways, while I was positioning her for phase 3 and the adds were being taken care of, people started dying left and right.

Several unlucky fears + cleaves + tail swipes later we were left with three people alive: Druid heals, myself tanking, and one mage DPS (an alt). Ony was at 1.5m health. I sighed and thought, wipe on Ony 10? Seriously? So easymode…

Of course, she has no enrage timer!

Oh, we took her down. I saw my healer’s mana get low, started popping cooldowns, and figured we were done for, but Innervate for the win! 3 manned from 1.5 mill to zero. Everyone on vent was impressed. Reminded me of some Heigan kills I’ve tanked, except on Ony deaths can just be bad luck.

I love pulling a kill out of what looks like a wipe. It’s a great feeling! :)


Wipefest on Faction Champions

(ss of my favorite mount, the OS+3 10 man drake, to cheer myself up)

We’ve been getting through TOC pretty reliably. One-shot the whole place in like 45 minutes last week. I figured we had this place covered.

Last night, ’twas not to be.  Faction Champs whooped us and whooped us good. We gave up after five wipes and called it a night.

Combat logs reveal problem areas were mainly interrupts – we weren’t interrupting enough heals. DPS was lower than usual, so the whole encounter was just taking too long. I know there’s got to be more to it though because they kicked our ass really, really hard.

A particularly frustrating fight for me because I go ret. I still feel very uncomfortable in ret. Used to being up front and in charge, after all… and in control. I just feel so helpless sometimes when we hit a progression fight and I’m in my offspec – at least as tank I have a great deal of control over how the encounter is progressing. I like control.

Well, anyways, it’s really sad when the lack of 2 top DPS suddenly moves our raid from “Clears TOC25 in 45 minutes” to “fails hard at faction champs.”

Edit: Interesting post on Maintankadin about Faction Champs AI:

Freya Trash crits my confidence for 100000k

My guild still raids Ulduar 25, but our main tank wants to pass MT duties there off to me. No problem! I can handle it! So this week we played a game called “Let’s pretend he’s not here and Halleigh has to MT everything.”

Things were slow and slightly rocky, but I was learning the whole time. Pacing. Where to pull. When to pull. Marking. I was being coached through a lot of it. Making some mistakes, but I was doing OK. We managed to get through much of Ulduar, two of the keepers, just fine.

Then we got to Freya.

Freya trash is now the bane of my existence.

There’s a lot of trash. It wanders around. It needs to be CCed. It needs to get taken down carefully. And I found that these complex trash pulls were too much newness for me, and panicked.

I didn’t know how to assign CC. I am not familiar enough with the different forms of CC and who can do what.  I didn’t know where my marking keys were.  I didn’t know what the kill priority was. And sometimes I couldn’t even do something simple like target all of the mobs to mark them.

It’s honestly not that hard in retrospect, but I was getting more and more stressed out. We’d get to a new pack of trash and everything we’d just done would fly out of my head. I froze up… I didn’t know what to do. I was finally so frustrated and panicked that I finally just asked my MT to mark and assign for me. (Which he did… patient guy that he is)

It was so embarrassing.

That was just one of many mistakes I made. But Freya trash in particular was just a total fail for me- I was completely overloaded with new things to do and couldn’t handle it badly enough that I panicked and handed the reins over.

I was disappointed in me… I should have been able to do this. It shouldn’t have been too much.

I wasn’t just mad at myself, I felt bad for the whole raid.

A totally new, stressing out, underconfident MT does not a smooth raid make. Ulduar was very rocky this week.

I don’t like screwing things up for 24 other people. In fact, I HATE it. I always, always feel personally responsible when my inexperience affects the course of the raid and it throws me off.

It’s a common theme for me – I am very hard on myself when things go wrong, and the frustration rises exponentially when my mistakes affect other people. I always feel a great deal of personal responsibility in these situations. (Probably too much.) On the other hand I’m pretty sure this is the same personality trait that drove me to become a tank in the first place…And will eventually make me a good MT, or at least a passable one.

Of course, it wasn’t all my fault. With a lot of uncertainty and mistake-making going on on the tank end (and my OTs were also new, making their fair share of mistakes) our guild’s usual problems like lack of raid awareness were front and center and far more noticeable than usual.

A frustrating week for everyone.

Funny that TOC is now way, way less stressful than Ulduar for me. I know TOC inside and out because our MT and I have switched jobs on pretty much every fight.

Trash. /sigh.

Wiping, Whining, and Selfishness

Some thoughts on wiping and whining.

My guild’s 25 man raid attempted to hit OS+3 last week and it was a shitshow. Many wipes. Many, many wipes. We can down Anub, but we are no match for bosses like Flame Walls and Void Zones.

There was a ton of bitching and moaning. Why didn’t we do OS+2? (We downed OS+2 without too much trouble a few weeks ago). Well, because even OS+0 wouldn’t have happened with those kinds of mistakes.

One particular raider was really adamant that we should go to Maly. He was personally offended that we “wasted time” in OS+3 when we could have gone to Maly and proceeded to complain about it very vocally after the fact.


I just have no patience at all for this kind of behavior.

  1. No one cared about Maly except him (which became clear later when everyone else got so frustrated at the sheer volume of his whining that we all started joking about it in guild chat).
  2. The officers decide where we go. IT’S NOT YOUR CALL.
  3. Whining about it incessantly after the fact doesn’t do anything except piss everyone off.

It was the way things were phrased. I would have said, “I wish we could go do Maly 25 because I have a quest for it. Oh, no one wants to go? OK.”

Not “Why did we waste all that time in OS+3 when people need Maly?” Whine whine whine.

Maybe it’s because I play a tank. The entire mindset behind my play is what’s best for the raid – taking care of the rest of the raid – doing what needs to be done for the benefit of the group, not for my own numbers on recount or gear score. Tanks can’t be selfish. Tanks can’t have tunnel vision. Just by nature of the role we play in the game, we are always thinking about the big picture.

So the little people who clearly have a worldview centered on themselves and only themselves – who are personally offended and nasty when things don’t go their way, and who assume blindly that everyone else agrees with them without giving a crap about other peoples’ opinions – I just can’t deal with that.

I’m glad I’m not an officer. I wouldn’t put up with it.

What kind of an attitude is that? Why are you raiding with 24 other people if you don’t care about anyone but yourself?

Just frustrated.

H Lord Jaraxxus Down!!!



Two shot Lord Jaraxxus on Heroic mode!

After perusing some World of Logs logs, we saw that most of the groups who downed him used 2 tanks, 2 heals. So we dropped to 2 heals and beat the snot out of him :)

Yours truly had Jaraxxus. I always feel special when I get to tank the boss (even when it’s because the MT takes the harder job, the adds). Instead of moving him around the outside like I do on 25 man, we just kept him in the center and I kited him just a little bit when necessary. This actually helped keep everything centrallized.

Firefighter (10 man) proved to be more of a challenge. We saw Phase 4, but were not very close to downing him. I was DPS and was certainly feeling my inexperience in ret quite keenly. We are also very short ranged DPS, which makes things in phase 3 exceptionally complicated.

I half expect to be left out of Firefighter next week because instead of the second tank in her DPS spec they should really grab another ranged. On the other hand, I know the guild wants to keep a constant roster on the 10 man, and my DPS isn’t too shabby. We’ll see…..

Paladin T10 puts me back in a dress


MMO Champion has posted pictures of the Paladin T10 and goddamnit, it’s another dress.

I’m a girl, so I don’t mind too much that my female character will be rocking a skirt again come T10. But our MT / my cotank is also a pally. He’s the kind of guy who calls the Violet Protodrake “your pink ride” and complained bitterly about tanking in a dress throughout T8 – he will be less pleased.

And it’s purple. Oh boy, I cannot WAIT to show him this! The teasing will commence :) “Does that skirt come with an apron?” “Get in the kitchen and make me a sandwitch!”

I really wish it was pants myself. Come on! My chick is a badass! She’s wearing the toughest plate armor in the game and stacks stamina until her fat ass laughs at spike damage! She stands between the boss & our deeps and healers, bravely getting her ass kicked over and over as much as possible to ensure their safety! What is she doing in a dress?

I want some pants instead, TYVM. It’s a little hard to dodge in a skirt.

Maybe this is why ICC is going to nerf avoidance. We were just too mobile in pants.

Progression: General Vezax (25) down


Mmmm…. the general didn’t prove to be much of a challenge. Two-shot. I was DPS for this fight since it’s one-tank.

DPS is easy. We just stacked up on his right foot and piled on the hurt. I’m not good at DPS, but geez, I can do that much. We had four people assigned to interrupts but I threw mine in whenever it was off cooldown, too.

The fight is more complicated for ranged and healers, who have to avoid shadow crashes and stand in puddles and deal with green clouds…. :) Two shots, pretty good. We way outgear this encounter now, though.

As a side note, I was damn proud of my DPS. I was third.

THIRD! SERIOUSLY!!! A link to our combat log in case you don’t believe me!

Sure, melee has it easier. But let’s be honest – I’m the second tank chilling in a DPS spec I don’t even know that well. I’m damn proud of myself. :D

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